Bottom Bracket Size Database
This page is a listing of various bicycle crank sets, and the bottom brackets that fit them.
Sheldon solicited information from readers to collect this data but that project is on hold until we set up a new mechanism for collecting and posting additional data. This is the information he collected:Crank Make- Examples: Campagnolo, Nervar, Shimano, Stronglight, SR (Sakae Ringyo) Sugino, TA, Takagi
Crank ModelSingle-Double-TripleSpindle/BB Code and Size- Examples: D3H, 68 ss 120, UN72 68 x 113, UN52 70 x 107, 344...See the section for your brand of crank for details of the measurement system used. As far as crank interchangeability is concerned, the most important thing is the overall length, and the offset if the spindle is longer on one side than the other (that's true of many older units.)
Spec or Measurement- "Spec" indicates that you got the information from a manufacturer's data sheet or other publication. "Measurement" indicates that you have measured a crank installed on a bicycle. Please measure everything in millimieters.
Tapered square or splined?- Most cotterless cranks use tapered square axles. Some newer models are splined. For splined cranks, it would be helpful to specify the spline pattern if known.
Items above in red are essential. If you can't supply all 5 of these bits of info, don't bother submitting. If you can fill in any of the additional items below, it will make your submission more usefulChainline- See the chart below for an explanation of how to measure chainline
Chainring Clearance- This would be the distance from the inner surface of the innermost chainring to the centerline of the seat tube or down tube.
Right Crank clearance- This would be the distance from the inside of the right crank to the centerline of the seat tube or down tube, measured at the centerline of where the pedal screws in.
Left Crank clearance- This would be the distance from the inside of the left crank to the centerline of the seat tube or down tube, measured at the centerline of where the pedal screws in.
Tread (a.k.a. "Q factor")- This is the horizontal width of the crankset from pedal mount to pedal mount. It is equal to the sum of the crank clearances above, plus the thickness of each crank. I can do the math if you provide the measurements.
- This is a useful item if you know it.
AccuracyMost of the size information on this list was provided by people like you. I have no way to check the accuracy of the data. It should be noted that frames can be reamed out to take a larger sized seatpost, and sometimes a replacement seatpost may be a slightly different size than the original. Japanese Bottom Bracket Spindles, Traditional Cup And Cone TypeSize Code | Shell Width | D Length Overall | A Length Left End | B Length Middle | C Length Right End | Symmetrical Equivalent |
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3H | 68 | 113 | 30.5 | 52 | 30.5 | 113 |
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3K | 68 | 117.5 | 32 | 52 | 33.5 | 119 |
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3P | 68 | 119 | 32 | 52 | 35 | 122 |
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3N | 68 | 120 | 32 | 52 | 36 | 124 |
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3S | 68 | 121.5 | 32 | 52 | 37.5 | 127 |
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3T | 68 | 123 | 32 | 52 | 39 | 130 |
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3NN | 68 | 124 | 36 | 52 | 36 | 124 |
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3U | 68 | 124.5 | 32 | 52 | 40.5 | 133 |
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3TR | 68 | 133 | 42 | 52 | 39 | 130 |
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3RR | 68 | 136 | 42 | 52 | 42 | 136 |
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5N | 70 | 122 | 32 | 55 | 35 | 125 |
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Avocet - See Ofmega | Bontrager (Truvativ) | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Chainring clearance more with steel inner ring, less with aluminum. |
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All Square Type | Triple/Single | 113 | Square | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | MTB Splined Type | Triple/Single | 113 | ISIS | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | Road Splined Type | Double | 108 | ISIS | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | | Road Splined Type | Triple | 118 | ISIS | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | | Bulletproof | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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BMX | Single/Double | 107 | Square | 43.4* | 38.4 | | | 158 | 110 | *43.4 chainline as double. 39.9 inner position, 46.9 outer position. | CampagnoloSorry, no other data yet on this brand. | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Record 9 | Double | 116 | Square | | 47 | 73 | 74 | Edco Competition Cartridge BB (older model) bb spindle - 116 mm offset | For more info on Campagnolo Models, see Martin Trautman's site |
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CodaSorry, no data yet on this brand. | MavicSorry, no other data yet on this brand. | | Double | 113 | Square | | | | | | 130 | | Ofmega (Avocet)Ofmega cranks, including those branded "Avocet" use a non-standard spindle, thinner than either J.I.S. or ISO spindles. As far as I know, nothing else works. | Ritchey (Sugino)Sorry, no other data yet on this brand. | Logic | Triple | 120 | Square | 122.5 mm UN-72 is the best Shimano replacement 118.5 mm Phil Wood barely fits Bridgestone XO-1 | 154 | 110/74 | | Logic Compact | Triple | 110-113 | Square | | | | | 154 w/113 | 94/58 | | Shimano Cartridge Bottom BracketsShimano cartridge bottom brackets are typically coded with a model designation and two numbers: shell width and length. - Model designations include:
Any crank that fits on one type of spindle will fit on all spindles of that type, but if the length is incorrect, the chainline/clearance will vary. - Shell width in millimeters:
- 68 for standard ISO/British
- 70 for Italian
- 73 for oversized ISO/British. This dimension has to do with what kind of frame the bottom bracket fits, and has nothing to do with the crank.
- Length: overall spindle length in millimeters. This will determine the chainline and various clearance dimensions.
Shimano sometimes specs two different lengths for the same crankset. This usually relates to the diameter of the seat tube. The shorter dimension is normally preferred, but bikes with fat seat tubes may require the longer size to accommodate the swing of the front derailer.
| Shimano Cranksets | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Shimano 105 |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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105-SC 1055 | Double | 113 (115) | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 7-speed 1990-92 | 105-SC 1056 | Double | 107 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 1993- | 105-SC 1057 | Triple | 118 | Square | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 8-speed 1996- | 105 5500 | Double | 109.5 | V1 Spline | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 9-speed 1999-2000 | 105 5501 | Double | 109.5 | V1 Spline | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | Hollowtech, 2001-02 | 105 5503 | Triple | 118.5 | V1 Spline | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 9-speed 1999-2000 | 105 5504 | Triple | 118.5 | V1 Spline | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | Hollowtech, 2001-02 | Shimano 200-700 (See also Exage and Ultegra) |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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200CX M202-C | Triple | 127.5 | Square | | | | | | riveted | 7-speed 1992 | 200GS M201 | Triple | 121 | Square | | | | | | riveted | 7-speed 1990 | 300EX A300 | Double | 115 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 1996-99 | 400CX C400 | Triple | 113-118 | Square | 45-47.5 | | | | | 110/58 | 7-speed 1993-94 | 700CX C700 | Triple | 113-118 | Square | 45-47.5 | | | | | 110/58 | 7-speed 1993-94 | Shimano Acera / Alivio / Altus |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Acera M330 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 61 mm | 1999-2000 | Acera MC19 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 61 mm | 8-speed 2001 | Acera-X M290 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | Recalled! Do Not Use! See Shimano dealer for free replacement. | Compact 1995 |
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Acera-X M291 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | riveted | 1996-98 | Alivio MC10 | Triple | 110.5-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 95 (!)/58 | Compact 1994 | Alivio MC11 | Triple | 110.5-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | riveted | Compact 1994 | Alivio MC12 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | Recalled! Do Not Use! See Shimano dealer for free replacement. | Compact 1995 |
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Alivio MC14 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 67(!) | 1996-97 | Alivio MC16 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 67(!) | 1997-98 | Alivio MC18 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 104/64 | 1999 | Alivio MC20 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 104/64 | 8-speed 2000-01 | Altus CT90 | Triple | 116-121 | Square | 47.5-50 | Recalled! Do Not Use! See Shimano dealer for free replacement. | Compact 1995 |
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Altus CT91 | Triple | 116-121 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | riveted | 1996-97 | Altus CT92 | Triple | 116-121 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | riveted | 1997-99 | Altus CT93 | Triple | 116-121 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | riveted | 1999-2001 | Altus C50 CT50 | Triple | 122.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | riveted | 1994-95 | Shimano Deore |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Deore M440,480,510 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 104/64 | 9-speed 2000-05 | Shimano Deore DX |
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Deore DX MT60 | Triple | 122.5 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 1990-1993 | Shimano Deore LX |
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Deore LX M550 | Triple | 122.5 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 1990-1992 | Deore LX M560 | Triple | 113-118 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 1993 | Deore LX M563 | Triple | 107-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | Compact 1994-96 | Deore LX M569 | Spiderless | 107-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | | 1997-98 | Deore LX M570 | Spiderless | 110-113 | Square | | | | | | | 1999 | Deore LX M571 | Spiderless | 113-118 | V2 Spline | | | | | | | 9-speed 2000-04 | Deore LX M580, M581 | Spiderless | Hollowtech II | 50 | | | | | | 9-speed 2005 | Shimano Deore XT |
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Deore XT M730 | Triple | 122.5 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 1990-1993 | Deore XT M737 | Triple | 107-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | Compact 1994-96 | Deore XT M739 | Triple | 107-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | Spiderless | Compact 1997-99 | Deore XT M750 | Spiderless | 110-113 | Square | | | | | | | 1999 | Deore XT M751 | Triple | 113-118 | V2 Spline | 47.5-50 | | | | | 104/64 | 9-speed 2000-03 | Deore XT M760, M761 | 104/64 | Hollowtech II | 50 | | | | | | 9-speed 2004 and later | Shimano Dura-Ace |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Dura-Ace 7200 | Double | 112-113 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 6-speed 1980s Symmetrical spindle 112 for 68 mm BB; 113 for 70 mm (Italian) | Dura-Ace 7400-7402 | Double | 112-113 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 1990-95 Right end of spindle 3 mm longer 112 for 68 mm BB; 113 for 70 mm (Italian) | Dura-Ace 7410 | Double | 103 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 1996 | Dura-Ace Aero BB-7300 (7500 AX) | Double | 107-109 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 6-speed 1980s Symmetrical spindle 107 for 68 mm BB; 109 for 70 mm (Italian). Uses special cups, will not fit through hole in others. | Dura-Ace 7600 | Single | 109 | Square | 43 | 40.6 | 56.3 | 56.3 | 139.4 | 144 | | Dura-Ace 7700 | Double | 109.5 | V1 Spline | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 9-speed, 1997-2000 | Dura-Ace 7701 | Double | 109.5 | V1 Spline | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | Hollowtech, 2001-03 | Dura-Ace 7700 | Triple | 118.5 | V1 Spline | 47.5 | | | | | 130/92 | 9-speed, 2002 and later | Dura-Ace 7800 | 130 | Hollowtech II | 43.5 | | | | | | 10-speed 2004 and later | Shimano Exage |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Exage 300X A300 | Double | 113 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 7-speed 1990-92 | Exage 300LX M300 | Triple | 121 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 7-speed 1990-92 | Exage 400X A400 | Double | 113 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 7-speed 1990-92 | Exage 400LX M400 | Triple | 121 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 7-speed 1990-92 | Exage 500X A500 | Double | 113 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 7-speed 1990-92 | Exage 500CX M400-C | Double | 122.5-127.5 | Square | | | | | | | 7-speed 1992 | Exage 500LX M500 | Triple | 121 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 7-speed 1990-91 | Exage ES M520 | Triple | 113-118 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 110/74 | 7-speed 1993 | Exage LT M320 | Triple | 113-118 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 110/74 | 7-speed 1993 | Shimano Hone |
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Hone M600 | | Hollowtech II | 57.5 | | | | | 104/64 | 9-speed 2005 and later | Shimano Nexave |
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Nexave T410 | Triple | 117.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | 104/64 | 2000 | Nexave T411 | Triple | 116-121 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | riveted | 2000 | Nexave T300 T300-S | Triple | 117.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | riveted | 2002 | Nexave T300 T303 | Triple | 117.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | riveted | 2000-02 | Nexave T400 T410 | Triple | 117.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | 110/64 | 2002 | Nexave T400 T411 | Triple | 117.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | 79 | 2002 | Nexave C600 C600 | Double | 117.5 | Square | 52.5 | | | | | 112 | 2000-02 | Nexave C900 C900 | Double | 121 | Square | 52.5 | | | | | 112 | 2000-02 | Shimano Nexus Inter C |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Nexus Inter C NX70 | Single | 116 | Square | 45 | | | | | Swaged | For internal hubs | Nexus Inter C NX40 | Single | 116 | Square | 45 | | | | | Swaged | For internal hubs | Nexus Inter C NX40 | Single | 116 | Square | 45 | | | | | Swaged | For internal hubs | Nexus Inter C 510 | Single | 122.5 | Square | 45 | | | | | Swaged | For internal hubs | Shimano RSX |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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RSX A410 | Double | 110 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 110 | 36-46 1995-1997 | RSX A413 | Triple | 118 | Square | 45 | | | | | 110/74 | 26-36-46 1995-1997 | RSX A416 | Double | 110 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 42-52 1999-2000 | RSX A417 | Triple | 118 | Square | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 30-42-52 1999-2000 | Shimano RX100 |
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RX100 A550 | Double | 113 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 7-speed 1990-93 | RX100 A551 | Double | 107 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 1994-2000 | RX100 A550-T | Triple | 122.5 | Square | 47.5 | | | | | 130/74 | 8-speed 1996-2000 | Shimano Saint |
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Saint M805 | | Hollowtech II | 57.5 | | | | | 104/64 | 9-speed 2004 and later | Shimano Sora |
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Sora 3300 | Double | 110 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 2001-04 | Sora 3303 | Triple | 113 | Square | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 8-speed 2001-04 | Sora 3301 | Double | 113 | V2 Spline | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 8-speed 2005 | Sora 3304 | Triple | 118 | V2 Spline | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 8-speed 2005 | Shimano STX, STX-ES, STX-RC |
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STX MC30 | Triple | 110.5-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 95 (!)/58 | Compact 1994 | STX MC32 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | Compact 1995-96 | STX MC34 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | Compact 1997- | STX-SE MC31 | Triple | 110.5-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 95 (!)/58 | Compact 1994 | STX MC34 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | 7-speed 1996-98 | STX-RC MC33 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | Compact 1995 | STX-RC MC36 | Triple | 110-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 94/58 | 8-speed Compact 1996-97 | STX-RC MC40 | Spiderless | 110.5-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | | 1998-99 | Shimano Tiagra |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Tiagra 4400 | Double | 110 | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 9-speed 2001-04 | Tiagra 4403 | Triple | 113 | Square | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 9-speed 2001-04 | Tiagra 4401 | Double | 113 | V2 Spline | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 9-speed 2005 | Tiagra 4404 | Triple | 118 | V2 Spline | 45 | | | | | 130/74 | 9-speed 2005 | Shimano Ultegra (600 Ultegra) |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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600 Ultegra 6400 | Double | 113 (115) | Square | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 6-/7-speed 1990 8-speed 1991-96 | Ultegra 6500 | Double | 109.5 | V1 Spline | 43.5 | | | | 147 | 130 | 9-speed 1998-2004 | Ultegra 6500 | Triple | 118.5 | V1 Spline | 45 | | | | 156 | 130/74 | 9-speed 1998-2004 | Ultegra 6600 | Double | Hollowtech II | 43.5 | | | | | 130 | 10-speed 2005 and later | Ultegra 6603 | Triple | Hollowtech II | 43.5 | | | | | 130/74 | 10-speed 2005 and later | Shimano XTR |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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XTR M900 | Triple | 107-113 | Square | 47.5-50 | | | | | 110/74 | 8-speed 1992-95 | XTR M950 | Triple | 112-116 | SV1 Spline | 47.5-50 | | | | | 112/68 4 arm | 8-speed 1996- | XTR M950-HG | Triple | 112-116 | V1 Spline | 47.5-50 | | | | | 110/74 | 8-speed 1996-97 | XTR M951 | Spiderless | 112-116 | V1 Spline | 47.5-50 | | | | | | 8-speed 1998 | XTR 952 | Spiderless | 112-116 | V1 Spline | 47.5-50 | | | | | 110/68 | 9-speed 1999-2003 | XTR 960 | Triple | Hollowtech II | 47.5-50 | | | | | 146/102/64 | 9-speed 2004 and later | For more info on Shimano Models, see Martin Trautman's site |
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Sakae Ringyo (SR)Sorry, no data yet on this brand. | StronglightSee also: TA for older models. | Sugino | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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AT | Triple (Made for an asymmetrical spindle.) | 127.5 + 2 mm spacer | Square | | | | | 150 | 110/74 | Shimano UN-72 BB. | 122.5 + 2 mm spacer | Square | | | | | 150 | 110/74 | '80s Shimano UN72 w/2 mm spacer on right | 115.5 + 2 mm spacer | Square | 42.5 | | | | 139 | 110/74 | Shimano UN-73 BB. | 700CX 4-bolt | Triple | 110-113 | Square | | | | | | 104/58 | 2001 | EX 4-bolt | Triple | 110-113 | Square | | | | | | 104/64 | 2001 | '97 Impel 5-bolt | Triple | 110-113 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 2001 | XD 300 5-bolt | Triple | 113-118 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | As short as 107 works with some road bikes. | XD 500 5-bolt | Triple | 113-118 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | 2001 As short as 107 works with some road bikes. | XD 600 5-bolt | Triple | 113-118 | Square | | | | | | 110/74 | As short as 107 works with some road bikes. | 75 | Track | 109 ISO | Square | | | | | | 144 | Sugino BB-SG75 | Alternate: Campagnolo 110.5 ISO | Chain line will be 1.5 mm wider than normal, according to Sugino | Alternate: Phil Wood 108 ISO | Chain line will be 1 mm narrower than normal, according to Sugino | RD 5-bolt | Single | 103 | Square | 42 | | | | | 130 | 2004 | Sun Tour | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Notes |
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Cyclone 7000 | Double | Shimano 110 | Square | 43.1 | 38.1 | 30.5 | 30.5 | 146.2 | 130 | Early '90s | Superbe Pro | Double | Campagnolo 111 | Square | 43.5 | 39 | 59 | 60 | 143 | 130 | Early '90s | T.A. Cyclotouriste (Generally interchangeable with older Stronglight) | Ref.# | Length | Application | |
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#314 | 111.5 mm | (track) |
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#344 | 118.5 mm | (double) |
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#373 | 120 mm | (road triple) |
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#374 | 123.5 mm | (road triple) |
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#375 | 127 mm | (tandem) |
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#376 | 133.5 mm | (MTB triple) |
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Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Chainring clearance more with steel inner ring, less with aluminum. |
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Cyclotouriste | Double | Shimano UN52 115 mm | Square | 43 | | | | 134.4 | 50.4 mm | Sheldon Brown's Hetchins |
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Zephyr | Double | 110 | Square | 43 | 36 | 61 | 59 | 147 | 130 | | ThornSorry, no other data yet on this brand. | Tandem | Triple | 113 | Square | 113 spec, but 107 works a lot better. This gives a proper 47.5 mm chainline and lower Q-factor | 162 | 110/74 | | Truvativ | Model | Single/ Double/ Triple | Length | Type: Square/ Splined | Chainline | Chainring Clearance | Right Crank Clearance | Left Crank Clearance | Tread (Q factor) | BCD | Chainring clearance more with steel inner ring, less with aluminum. |
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Square Taper Models |
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Firex | Triple/Single | 113 | Square | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | FiveD | Triple/Single | 113 | Square | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | Hussefelt | Triple/Single | 113 | Square | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 172 | 104/64 4-arm | | Stylo | Triple/Single | 113 | Square | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | X-Forge | Triple/Single | 113 | Square | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | ISIS Drive Splined Models |
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Firex | Triple/Single | 113 | ISIS | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | FiveD | Triple/Single | 113 | ISIS | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | Holzfeller | Triple/Single | 113 | ISIS | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 172 | 110/74 5-arm | | Hussefelt | Triple/Single | 113 | ISIS | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 172 | 104/64 4-arm | | Stylo | Triple/Single | 113 | ISIS | 48.5 | 39.6/38.6 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 71 +/- 1.5 | 168 | 104/64 4-arm | | | A note regarding chainline: but there is currently confusion in the industry regarding how it is actually measured. For double road cranks and single speed cranks this is straightforward, but for triple cranks there are two current measurement methods: - As Shimano, which is outlined on your web page, in which chainline is measured from the frame centerline to the INSIDE surface of the chainring teeth on the middle chainring.
- As most other manufacturers use, and is defined in the ISIS Drive standard, in which chainline is measured from the frame centerline to the CENTER of the tooth of the middle chainring.
For typical 2mm thick chainring teeth, these two measurement methods differ by 1mm, even though the chainring ends up in the same physical location relative to the frame centerline. Hence, a Shimano 47.5 mm chainline is equivalent to an ISIS Drive 48.5 mm chainline.Further, the confusion that your table is attempting to help solve is the same confusion that we tried to address in the ISIS Drive standard. In the case of ISIS Drive, the standard spindle lengths are symmetric and vary in multiples of 5 mm. Thus, if you know the chainline is 48.5 mm with a 113 mm ISIS Drive spindle length, then you automatically know that if you use a 118 mm ISIS Drive spindle length your chainline will increase by 2.5 mm (each crank moves outward 2.5 mm, for a total of 5 mm). A note regarding these differences in chainline measurement on your web page may help some people better understand why a manufacturer claims a 48.5 mm chainline but when they measure it (per Shimano) it is 47.5 mm. Garrett Smith Truvativ International |
Chainline MeasurementChainline is measured from the centerline of the frame to the center of the chain. You can measure the front chainline directly with a simple ruler. Simply hold the ruler against the seat tube or down tube and measure the distance to the middle of the chainring teeth. In the case of triple chainwheel sets, measure to the middle chainring. In the case of doubles, measure to the halfway point between the two rings. To measure rear chainline, the easiest way is to measure the distance from the inside of the rear fork end (or the outside of the axle locknut) to the middle of the sprocket. Double this, subtract it from the over-lock-nut dimension of the hub (or the frame spacing , which should be the same), then divide the result in half, and you have the rear chainline.
This frame has a spacing of 125 mm Application | Dimension | Notes |
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Road Double | 43.5 | Shimano spec, measured to the midpoint between the rings. with typical 5 mm chainring spacing, this puts the inner at 41 mm, the outer at 46 mm. |
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Road Triple | 45 | Shimano spec, measured to the middle ring. |
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MTB Triple | 47.5-50 mm | Shimano spec, measured to the middle ring. 47.5 preferred, but for frames with oversized seat tubes, the longer dimension may be needed, because the fat tube places the derailer mechanism farther to the right. |
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Track/Coaster Brake Traditional One-Speed Most internal gear hubs | 40.5-42 mm | Older bikes with 110 spacing would be on the smaller end of this range Newer bikes with 120 mm spacing normally use 42 mm |
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Singlespeed MTB | 52 mm | Wider chainline need for chainstay clearance on MTBs. This is close to the chainline of the outer ring of a typical MTB triple |
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Rohloff Speedhub | 54 mm (58 mm w/13 tooth) |
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Singlespeed MTB Alternate | 47.5 mm | White Industries ENO hubs use this chainline, which lines up with the middle position of a typical MTB triple. It's also fairly close to the outer position of a typical "road" double. |
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Axle/Crank Interfaces Square TaperTraditional cotterless cranksets use a tapered square axle end. The sides of the end taper at a 2 degree angle compared to the centerline, 4 degrees compared to each other. While there is general agreement about the angle, there is no such agreement about the actual width cut off. ISO vs J.I.S. StandardMartin Trautmann posted on rec.bicycles.tech :L_right = 18 +0.5/-0 mm
L_left = 16 +0.5/-0 mm
Dimension across flat 1.5 mm from end: 12.6 mm +0.02-0.05
Spindle end to bolt seat: Loose: 3 mm
Tightened: 1.5 mm min.
Yet another source claimed that the squares of Campa, Mavic and
Stronglight (ISO) are smaller than Shimano and Suntour (J.I.S.) with the
result that J.I.S. cranks will move about 4.5 mm further in.
This may conflict with the end of the square and result in a loose fit
or breaking stress. For ISO cranks on J.I.S. squares there's less contact
area between crank and spindle, since the crank does not slip perfectly
onto the spindle. The result again is a higher risk of breaking the crank.
But assuming those 4.5 mm and 2 deg, ISO is about 0.3 mm smaller than
J.I.S. (2 * sin 2 * 4.5 = 0.3)?
ISO cranks (Campagnolo, Stronglight, others) won't go as far onto J.I.S. spindles as they ideally should.
J.I.S. cranks (most Japanese models) may bottom out if installed on ISO spindles. In practice, you can very often get away with mixing these sizes, as long as you select an axle length that gives the desired chainline. See also my Article on Bottom Bracket Tapers. ISIS Drive SplineIn the case of ISIS Drive, the standard spindle lengths are symmetric and vary in multiples of 5 mm. Thus, if you know the chainline is 48.5 mm with a 113 mm ISIS Drive spindle length, then you automatically know that if you use a 118 mm ISIS Drive spindle length your chainline will increase by 2.5 mm (each crank moves outward 2.5 mm, for a total of 5 mm). Garrett Smith, Truvativ International. Bottom Bracket ThreadingBottom brackets come in different sizes, according to the nationality of the frame. The table below is for threaded bottom-brackets. For the Ashtabula and other unthreaded bottom brackets, see the unthreaded bottom-bracket cribsheet.
Standard: | Threading | Adjustable (left) cup/cone direction | Fixed (right) cup/cone direction | Shell Width | Applications/Notes |
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British I.S.O. | 1.370" X 24 tpi 1.375" X 24 tpi | right | left | Standard 68 mm O.S. 73 mm | The overwhelming majority of bicycles in current production. British and I.S.O. are interchangeable. |
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Shimano Hollowtech II, FSA MegaExo, RaceFace X-type | ISO | right | left | 90 mm, 95 mm including cups | External cups for cartridge bearings fit British/ISO threaded bottom brackets or unthreaded shell. 24 mm spindle, spacer to use 6805 bearings with 25mm I.D.. Bottom bracket shell must be faced so cups are parallel. |
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Campagnolo Ultra-torque | Italian or ISO | | | | Spindle diameter 25mm. |
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Chater Lea | 1.450 x 26 TPI | right | left | | Obsolete British size but available from Phil Wood & Co. |
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French | 35 mm X 1mm (25.4 tpi) | right | right (wrong!) | 68 mm | Obsolete, used on older French bicycles. Prone to problems due to the right threaded fixed cup, which tends to unscrew itself in use. |
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ISIS Overdrive I | 48 x 1.5 mm | right | left | 68mm 100 mm | |
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ISIS Overdrive II | 48 x 1.5 mm | right | left | 68mm 100 mm | New proposed standard oversized system. |
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Italian | 36 mm X 24 tpi | right | right (wrong!) | 70 mm | Italian and some high-end French bicycles. Prone to problems due to the right threaded fixed cup, which tends to unscrew itself in use. |
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Raleigh | 1 3/8" X 26 tpi | right | left | 71 mm 76 mm | Older British-made Raleighs, 3 speeds and others from the Nottingham factory. |
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Swiss | 35 mm X 1mm (25.4 tpi) | right | left | 68 mm | Same thread as French, but fixed cup is left- threaded for reliability. |
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What happens if you try to mix different sizes:Bottom Bracket Shell Threading (Below) | BritishI.S.O. 1.37/1.375" x 24 tpi CUPS R-L (34.8/34.9 x 1.06 mm) | Italian 36 mm X 24 tpi CUPS R-R (1.417" x 1.06 mm) | French 35 mm X 1mm CUPS R-R (1.378 x 25.4 tpi) | Swiss 35 mm X 1mm CUPS R-L (1.378 x 25.4 tpi) | Raleigh 1 3/8" X 26 tpi CUPS R-L (34.9 x 1.06 mm) |
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British/I.S.O. 1.37/1.375" x 24 tpi (34.8/34.9 x 1.06 mm) | Made to Fit | 36 mm Cup diameter is too large, thread won't even start. | Cup diameter is slightly too large, usually won't start. Right (fixed) cup threaded in the opposite direction. | Cup diameter is slightly too large, usually won't start. | Diameter matches, but thread pitch does not. Will bind after only a few threads are engaged. |
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Italian 36 mm X 24 tpi (1.417" x 1.06 mm) | British/I.S.O. cups fall through | Made to Fit | Italian shells are larger diameter, all other size cups fall right through, threads will not engage. |
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French 35 mm X 1mm (1.378 x 25.4 tpi) | 35 mm = 1.378". Shell is slightly larger, thread pitch slightly finer. Left side may seem to fit, but will be loose. | 36 mm Cup diameter is too large, thread won't even start. | Made to Fit | Left (adjustable) side is interchangeable. Right (fixed) side is threaded in the opposite direction, won't fit. | 35 mm = 1.378". Shell is slightly larger, thread pitch slightly coarser. Left side may seem to fit, but will be loose. |
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Swiss 35 mm X 1mm (1.378 x 25.4 tpi) | 35 mm = 1.378". Shell is slightly larger, thread pitch slightly finer. May seem to fit, but will be loose. | 36 mm Cup diameter is too large, thread won't even start. | Left (adjustable) side is interchangeable. Right (fixed) side is threaded in the opposite direction, won't fit. | Made to Fit | 35 mm = 1.378". Shell is slightly larger, thread pitch slightly coarser. May seem to fit, but will be loose. |
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Raleigh 1 3/8" X 26 tpi (34.9 x 0.977 mm) | Diameter matches, but thread pitch does not. Will bind after only a few threads are engaged. | 36 mm Cup diameter is too large, thread won't even start. | Cup diameter is slightly too large, usually won't start. Right (fixed) cup threaded in the opposite direction. | Cup diameter is slightly too large, usually won't start. | Made to Fit |
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ChainlineApplication | Dimension | Notes |
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Road Double | 43.5 | Shimano spec, measured to the midpoint between the rings. With typical 5 mm chainring spacing, this puts the inner at 41 mm, the outer at 46 mm. |
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Road Triple | 45 | Shimano spec, measured to the middle ring. Note that this results in the middle chainwheel's being to the right of the chainline for the middle rear sprocket. |
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MTB Triple | 47.5-50 mm | Shimano spec, measured to the middle ring. 47.5 preferred, but for frames with oversized seat tubes, the longer dimension may be needed, because the fat tube places the derailer mechanism farther to the right. |
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Track/Coaster Brake Traditional One-Speed Most internal gear hubs | 40.5-42 mm | Older bikes with 110 spacing would be on the smaller end of this range Newer bikes with 120 mm spacing normally use 42 mm |
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Singlespeed MTB | 52 mm | Wider chainline need for chainstay clearance on MTBs. This is close to the chainline of the outer ring of a typical MTB triple |
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Rohloff Speedhub | 54 mm (58 mm w/13 tooth) |
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Singlespeed MTB Alternate | 47.5 mm | White Industries ENO hubs use this chainline, which lines up with the middle position of a typical MTB triple. It's also fairly close to the outer position of a typical "road" double. |
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Thanks to those who helped by providing data points for this survey:Evan Marks, Andrew Muzi, Joel Stern, Martin Rockwell, Martin Trautmann, Alex Wetmore... For more info on Campagnolo and Shimano Models, see Martin Trautman's ssi |
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